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Never Too Soon To Muddy The Waters

The gun grabbers can't even wait to find out what happened before chasing the Meridian, Mississippi ambulance (and hearses) for their pet anti-freedom cause.

In the wake of yet another horrible mass shooting, Congress and President Bush need no more reminders of why they should work to reauthorize and strengthen the federal ban on assault weapons. While we don't yet know what weapon was used in this tragedy, we do know that rapid-fire assault weapons are designed for this type of terrible assault."

I suggest that Congress also ban groups like the Brady Campaign, and the Million Mom March. After all, while it's perhaps too early to know why many members of the public are incapable of coherent thought, and ignorant of the Constitution and the nature of firearms, such demogoguery is designed for the type of terrible assault on logic that contributes to that ongoing tragedy.

[Update at 10 PM PDT]

He used a shotgun...

Posted by Rand Simberg at July 08, 2003 04:52 PM
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omigawd it just had to be one of those eeeeeeeevil oil-fired assault shotguns so you see it was all about the ooiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeelllll [smack]. Move along please, no coherent thought to be seen here, step lively, there.

Posted by John S Allison at July 9, 2003 07:25 AM

But the other gun he had was a Mini-14. You just know the Brady Bunch troglodytes are going to be all over that. I mean, it's (shriek!) SEMI-AUTOMATIC!!! And it can have a (gasp!) BANANA MAGAZINE!!!

Posted by David Gillies at July 9, 2003 04:16 PM

Oh come on. Anyone who ever watched the A Team knows you can't kill anyone with a Mini-14. It's only good for suppresive fire...

Posted by triticale at July 9, 2003 04:49 PM

Anyone who watched the A-Team would determine that guns are completly harmless. Afterall, crack military commandos can't hit and kill anyone how could anyone else?

Posted by Keith at July 9, 2003 04:52 PM

Let me guess.....the plant was a GUN-FREE zone.....so that everyone would be "safe" and also, of COURSE, helpless if an armed madman showed up. And this guy knew it...he KNEW that until security woke up or local law "enforcement" responded, that he would have total power to kill anyone he chose.
He never had to figure armed resistance by one of his victims into account.

Well....there you go. Ban Guns, Ya'll.

Posted by robert at July 9, 2003 05:05 PM

Not only is 'Resistance' futile, it is now prohibited by company policy. Better the employees die horribly than sue us!

Posted by Mike Puckett at July 9, 2003 07:24 PM

Better the employees die horribly than sue us!

IMO, that should read:

Better the employees die horribly than the per's widow sue us!

Posted by Kevin McGehee at July 10, 2003 04:37 AM

Better the employees die horribly than sue us!

IMO, that should read:

Better the employees die horribly than the perp's widow sue us!

(Preview is my friend -- or would be, if I paid it more attention...)

Posted by Kevin McGehee at July 10, 2003 04:38 AM

Good one Triticale! That just about made my day.

I am reminded of a coworker who once said to me "Your pee-pee should be big enough that you shouldn't feel the need to carry a gun at work."

And in Mississippi, just like in Wakefield MA, people have died as they held their respective "pee-pees" in their hands.

To quote Bert Gummer from "Tremors:" When you need it, but don't have it, you sing a different tune.

Posted by Greg at July 10, 2003 05:03 AM

"The gun grabbers can't even wait to find out what happened before chasing the Meridian, Mississippi ambulance (and hearses) for their pet anti-freedom cause."

Funny, I don't remember Charleton Heston being called an ambulance chancer when he went on Larry King after the school shooting Germany a few years ago. Of course mass shootings in Canada & Europe have nearly become once in a decade events, I wonder why ....

Posted by Tipsy at July 10, 2003 08:35 AM

It's certainly not for lack of guns.

Posted by Rand Simberg at July 10, 2003 08:39 AM

"It's certainly not for lack of guns."

OK then, if gun control laws are the reason why mass shootings are so rare in Canada and Europe then what is?

Posted by Tipsy at July 10, 2003 10:36 AM

It is my understanding that, statistically speaking, mass shootings in the US are actually quite rare. They do get a lot of press coverage, however. You never here about the cases where a mass shooting was thwarted by a concealed carry permit holder. Does Canada/Europe really have less mass killings (does the form of weapon really matter?) per capita then the U.S.? (in the words of Archie Bunker, "would it make you feel better *** if they'd been pushed out of windows?")

Posted by Tim at July 10, 2003 12:29 PM

It's a different culture.

Posted by Rand Simberg at July 10, 2003 01:17 PM

"It's a different culture."

Ah yes, there we have it. American culture is violent. It's sad how many intelligent and patriotic Americans sound like mindless Europeans saying how violent we all are when they try to explain why our murder and gun murder rates a exponetial higher than the rest of the developed countries (yes mass shootings are rare in the U.S., but they're much rarer in Canada and Europe).

And no I'm not "anti-gun", but there's no logical argument against renewing the assault weapons ban (spare me the 2nd Amemdment arguments, the ban has won in court every time). That was the point the Brady Campaign was making in its press release.

Posted by Tipsy at July 10, 2003 02:55 PM

Yes, there is a logical argument against it.

It's an idiotic law. It serves no purpose, and its effect is basically to outlaw weapons that are scary looking. If you want to talk about logical arguments, go read the law, then come back and attempt to make one in favor of it.

And in fact, it's quite possible that if it's ever challenged to the Supreme Court, it will be stricken down on Second Amendment grounds. The SCOTUS has never really ruled on the novel "collective right" interpretation, but if they do, they'll likely set it straight.

And yes, we are a more violent culture, due to reasons of history, ancestry and pathological social policies (such as the War on (Some) Drugs). The people who populated this country, particularly in the South (and later, after the Civil War) the West, were descendants of some of the most violent people that the British Isles ever produced, and they brought much of that culture with them. Go read Albion's Seed.

Posted by Rand Simberg at July 10, 2003 03:17 PM

Tipsy, gun control in Europe had nothing to do with controlling crime, and everything to do with fears of a Bolshevik-style uprising. England's crime rate was actually lower back when they had unrestricted access to guns, significantly more so than in the present day.

Posted by Jon Acheson at July 10, 2003 08:45 PM

> OK then, if gun control laws are the reason why mass shootings are so rare in Canada and Europe then what is?

Are they more rare? Or, is coverage different for guns in the US?

I ask because the most effective mass killers in the US have used fire, not guns. The coverage doesn't reflect this fact.

And, if you want to count bodies per perp, the most effective US killers use knives, clubs, and other weapons of strength. (I'm referring to serial killers.)

Posted by at July 10, 2003 09:27 PM

This guy was also the result of a failed psychiatric intervention - "anger management" courses, counseling, etc. He was also, like a number of the other sui/homocides, on antidepressants. These drugs, though they are of great service to many of their users ( such as the lovely and talented V. Postrel), have spectacular failures like propane tanks do.

Posted by ispdrudge at July 12, 2003 09:44 PM

I reside in Anchorage, Alaska 99501 for the 30 Years!! I don't know much about the Miss. laws!! I was born in Laurel on Dec. 8th, 1933!!! Went thru High school in Laurel!!! Been moving around the country for the last few year's!! Anchorage has its share of homocides, just like anywhere else!! I watch Cold case files for the last 20 years'!!I took courses in Private Investigater I would still like to sturdy the Miss. Homocide cases!!! Better close now, thank you for letting me write some Comments! This probably doesn't make much sense but does anything anyone writes,make sense!!! Have a good one!!Al Peacock!!

Posted by Albert E. Peacock at December 17, 2004 10:34 PM


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